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	<title>Comments on: Statistics-truth or dare Dr Pesce?</title>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
		<link>http://coastkids.com.au/blog/2010/01/statistics-truth-or-dare-dr-pesce/comment-page-1/#comment-426</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 06:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always find it interesting when some people hear or read anything pro home birth, they take it as a personal attack to their choice of birth.

I understand that the point being made in this article is that this is a choice that should be available to women if they so choose. I read no criticism or calls of "bad mother" to those choosing the hospital route.

Bev, you are right in saying that due to good care we have bought the maternal death rate down, what I think is interesting to note though is that this is mainly because of good prenatal care, e.g. identifying problems before the women goes into labour. We are now able to identify which women need high levels of care and which don't.

When problems come up in any birth there are warning signs, at a homebirth this is picked up straight away because the midwife remains with the women.  This might take a lot longer in a hospital where the doctors and midwives are attending to multiple women at one time. This gives the hospital time to prep the operating room or a home birthing mother time to get to the hospital.

You also make a comment that you would never consider a home birth because of safety, but speak of  epidurals as a golden choice. I have worked in maternity care for many years and can assure all those reading my post that epidurals have many risks and are responsible for more emergency caesareans than any other intervention. The world health organisation has many studies to back this claim.

Maybe the use pain relieving drugs, including an epidural was the cause of your daughters emergency caesarean?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always find it interesting when some people hear or read anything pro home birth, they take it as a personal attack to their choice of birth.</p>
<p>I understand that the point being made in this article is that this is a choice that should be available to women if they so choose. I read no criticism or calls of &#8220;bad mother&#8221; to those choosing the hospital route.</p>
<p>Bev, you are right in saying that due to good care we have bought the maternal death rate down, what I think is interesting to note though is that this is mainly because of good prenatal care, e.g. identifying problems before the women goes into labour. We are now able to identify which women need high levels of care and which don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>When problems come up in any birth there are warning signs, at a homebirth this is picked up straight away because the midwife remains with the women.  This might take a lot longer in a hospital where the doctors and midwives are attending to multiple women at one time. This gives the hospital time to prep the operating room or a home birthing mother time to get to the hospital.</p>
<p>You also make a comment that you would never consider a home birth because of safety, but speak of  epidurals as a golden choice. I have worked in maternity care for many years and can assure all those reading my post that epidurals have many risks and are responsible for more emergency caesareans than any other intervention. The world health organisation has many studies to back this claim.</p>
<p>Maybe the use pain relieving drugs, including an epidural was the cause of your daughters emergency caesarean?</p>
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		<title>By: BEV</title>
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		<dc:creator>BEV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 03:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm confused. Where does everyone get the info and how do you know it is flawed? If it is flawed you have the right to have it retracted haven't you? Wouldn't anyone at risk be giving birth in  a hospital anyway and so you would have more traumatic births and/or deaths in hospital because of this. My daughter was so healthy and so was the baby until she went into labour and the baby's heartrate slowed until almost stopped. An emergency c section saved him. What would have happened if she wasn't in a hospital?  Why do midwives seem to hate doctors so much? It's funny because even though a lot of women gave birth at home back in the day a lot of them DID die and I know oldies that wish they had access back then to the medical we have now!! I don't know anyone who remembers being born, so I could have been born inside of a volcano for all I remember. I also know the midwives I have met and had deliver 2 of my 3 were lovely as were the ones my daughters have dealt with. As for how much it costs, the workers (like my husband) have their wages levied on the amount they earn so if anyone should complain it's them. Where would we be if it was users pay? As for letting women choose what they want and all the supposed support for mum's what a load of...........
My daughter rang a community centre to ask if she could come down to see if she was doing something wrong with feeding her baby.  If you breastfeed you can call in anytime but if you bottle feed you need to make an appt.  It didn't matter to them she was distressed and it showed me that unless you follow beliefs like you have written about then you are somehow not up to par. That turned me right off.  Not everyone is hippified but that doesn't mean they are unfit.  What would be good is a midwife birthing centre in all hospitals and a work ethic where both show respect to the other. At home births??? Forget it. The last thing I want to look at is housework that hasn't been done sitting in a plastic pool thing. How is that tranquil?  A rockpool surrounded by a private beach maybe.  With a full medical team. And a loaded epidural. If that makes me a terrible mum then I dare anyone to tell my kids that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m confused. Where does everyone get the info and how do you know it is flawed? If it is flawed you have the right to have it retracted haven&#8217;t you? Wouldn&#8217;t anyone at risk be giving birth in  a hospital anyway and so you would have more traumatic births and/or deaths in hospital because of this. My daughter was so healthy and so was the baby until she went into labour and the baby&#8217;s heartrate slowed until almost stopped. An emergency c section saved him. What would have happened if she wasn&#8217;t in a hospital?  Why do midwives seem to hate doctors so much? It&#8217;s funny because even though a lot of women gave birth at home back in the day a lot of them DID die and I know oldies that wish they had access back then to the medical we have now!! I don&#8217;t know anyone who remembers being born, so I could have been born inside of a volcano for all I remember. I also know the midwives I have met and had deliver 2 of my 3 were lovely as were the ones my daughters have dealt with. As for how much it costs, the workers (like my husband) have their wages levied on the amount they earn so if anyone should complain it&#8217;s them. Where would we be if it was users pay? As for letting women choose what they want and all the supposed support for mum&#8217;s what a load of&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
My daughter rang a community centre to ask if she could come down to see if she was doing something wrong with feeding her baby.  If you breastfeed you can call in anytime but if you bottle feed you need to make an appt.  It didn&#8217;t matter to them she was distressed and it showed me that unless you follow beliefs like you have written about then you are somehow not up to par. That turned me right off.  Not everyone is hippified but that doesn&#8217;t mean they are unfit.  What would be good is a midwife birthing centre in all hospitals and a work ethic where both show respect to the other. At home births??? Forget it. The last thing I want to look at is housework that hasn&#8217;t been done sitting in a plastic pool thing. How is that tranquil?  A rockpool surrounded by a private beach maybe.  With a full medical team. And a loaded epidural. If that makes me a terrible mum then I dare anyone to tell my kids that.</p>
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		<title>By: Emma Parsons</title>
		<link>http://coastkids.com.au/blog/2010/01/statistics-truth-or-dare-dr-pesce/comment-page-1/#comment-333</link>
		<dc:creator>Emma Parsons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 21:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle, thanks so much for bringing this to my attention, I am about to hopefully have my second home birth and am also thinking of starting a UK based web resource for mums needing info to help make decisions around natural and home birth, having seen so many friends go through unnecessary stress and intervention at the hands of the hospital. 
This article has just confirmed my thoughts, many thanks
Emma</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle, thanks so much for bringing this to my attention, I am about to hopefully have my second home birth and am also thinking of starting a UK based web resource for mums needing info to help make decisions around natural and home birth, having seen so many friends go through unnecessary stress and intervention at the hands of the hospital.<br />
This article has just confirmed my thoughts, many thanks<br />
Emma</p>
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